[spielfrieks] 2008 Retrospective

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So let’s check out 2008 next. We nominated 25 games for the original election that year. Here they are, in alphabetical order:

After the Flood
Aquaretto
Battlestar Galactica
Chicago Express
Conflict of Heroes
Cosmic Encounter
Diamonds Club
Dominion
Ghost Stories
Le Havre
Lost Cities: The Board Game
Manoeuvre
Metropolys
Municipium
Pandemic
Planet Steam
Powerboats
Royal Palace
Say Anything
Snow Tails
Space Alert
Steel Driver
Stone Age
Tinners' Trail
Wealth of Nations

Here’s the top 5 games, by Geek ranking, that didn’t make the list. All it takes is a seconding post to put any of these in the election:

Combat Commander: Pacific
Dixit
Formula D
Roll Through the Ages: Bronze Age
Time's Up! Title Recall!

As usual, please feel free to nominate any other 2008 game that you think you’ll put in your top 3. If someone else seconds it, the game will be added to the list.

Let’s give it a few days to percolate and then I’ll set up a poll and we’ll revote the ’08 election. Thanks!

Larry

[Paul Sauberer [e-mail] [spielfrieks]]

I will second Time's Up! Title Recall

Post by ***@comcast.net [spielfrieks]
So let’s check out 2008 next. We nominated 25 games for the original
After the Flood
Aquaretto
Battlestar Galactica
Chicago Express
Conflict of Heroes
Cosmic Encounter
Diamonds Club
Dominion
Ghost Stories
Le Havre
Lost Cities: The Board Game
Manoeuvre
Metropolys
Municipium
Pandemic
Planet Steam
Powerboats
Royal Palace
Say Anything
Snow Tails
Space Alert
Steel Driver
Stone Age
Tinners' Trail
Wealth of Nations
Here’s the top 5 games, by Geek ranking, that didn’t make the list. All
Combat Commander: Pacific
Dixit
Formula D
Roll Through the Ages: Bronze Age
Time's Up! Title Recall!
As usual, please feel free to nominate any other 2008 game that you think
you’ll put in your top 3. If someone else seconds it, the game will be
added to the list.
Let’s give it a few days to percolate and then I’ll set up a poll and
we’ll revote the ’08 election. Thanks!
Larry

[Tedcheatham [e-mail] [spielfrieks]]

Ok time to chime in. Love times up. Been playing before it was published as characters. Only played title recall once. It may have been lack of knowledge, but it was not my favorite.

Ted Cheatham

Post by Paul Sauberer ***@gmail.com [spielfrieks]
I will second Time's Up! Title Recall

Post by ***@comcast.net [spielfrieks]
After the Flood
Aquaretto
Battlestar Galactica
Chicago Express
Conflict of Heroes
Cosmic Encounter
Diamonds Club
Dominion
Ghost Stories
Le Havre
Lost Cities: The Board Game
Manoeuvre
Metropolys
Municipium
Pandemic
Planet Steam
Powerboats
Royal Palace
Say Anything
Snow Tails
Space Alert
Steel Driver
Stone Age
Tinners' Trail
Wealth of Nations
Combat Commander: Pacific
Dixit
Formula D
Roll Through the Ages: Bronze Age
Time's Up! Title Recall!
As usual, please feel free to nominate any other 2008 game that you think you’ll put in your top 3. If someone else seconds it, the game will be added to the list.
Let’s give it a few days to percolate and then I’ll set up a poll and we’ll revote the ’08 election. Thanks!
Larry

[Dave Peters [e-mail] [spielfrieks]]

I'd love to nominate Preußische Ostbahn. Any one silly enough to second?
d

Post by Tedcheatham ***@gmail.com [spielfrieks]
Ok time to chime in. Love times up. Been playing before it was published
as characters. Only played title recall once. It may have been lack of
knowledge, but it was not my favorite.
Ted Cheatham
I will second Time's Up! Title Recall

Post by ***@comcast.net [spielfrieks]
So let’s check out 2008 next. We nominated 25 games for the original
After the Flood
Aquaretto
Battlestar Galactica
Chicago Express
Conflict of Heroes
Cosmic Encounter
Diamonds Club
Dominion
Ghost Stories
Le Havre
Lost Cities: The Board Game
Manoeuvre
Metropolys
Municipium
Pandemic
Planet Steam
Powerboats
Royal Palace
Say Anything
Snow Tails
Space Alert
Steel Driver
Stone Age
Tinners' Trail
Wealth of Nations
Here’s the top 5 games, by Geek ranking, that didn’t make the list. All
Combat Commander: Pacific
Dixit
Formula D
Roll Through the Ages: Bronze Age
Time's Up! Title Recall!
As usual, please feel free to nominate any other 2008 game that you think
you’ll put in your top 3. If someone else seconds it, the game will be
added to the list.
Let’s give it a few days to percolate and then I’ll set up a poll and
we’ll revote the ’08 election. Thanks!
Larry

[Jimmy Okolica [e-mail] [spielfrieks]]

I'll second Preußische Ostbahn.
....and I'll much more sillily nominate Sorry! Sliders.  Probably gotten more regular plays for me than anything but Dixit.
-Jimmy
On Sunday, July 8, 2018, 10:27:07 PM EDT, Dave Peters ***@gmail.com [spielfrieks] <***@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

I'd love to nominate Preußische Ostbahn.  Any one silly enough to second? d
On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 7:16 PM Tedcheatham ***@gmail.com [spielfrieks] <***@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



Ok time to chime in.  Love times up. Been playing before it was published as characters.  Only played title recall once. It may have been lack of knowledge, but it was not my favorite. 

Ted Cheatham
On Jul 8, 2018, at 9:50 PM, Paul Sauberer ***@gmail.com [spielfrieks] <***@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

I will second Time's Up! Title Recall
On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 7:37 PM, ***@comcast.net [spielfrieks] <***@yahoogroups.com> wrote:




So let’s check out 2008next.  We nominated 25 games for theoriginal election that year.  Here theyare, in alphabetical order:

 

After the Flood

Aquaretto

Battlestar Galactica

Chicago Express

Conflict of Heroes

Cosmic Encounter

Diamonds Club

Dominion

Ghost Stories

Le Havre

Lost Cities: The BoardGame

Manoeuvre

Metropolys

Municipium

Pandemic

Planet Steam

Powerboats

Royal Palace

Say Anything

Snow Tails

Space Alert

Steel Driver

Stone Age

Tinners' Trail

Wealth of Nations

 

Here’s the top 5 games,by Geek ranking, that didn’t make the list. All it takes is a seconding post to put any of these in the election:

 

Combat Commander:Pacific

Dixit

Formula D

Roll Through the Ages:Bronze Age

Time's Up! Title Recall!

 

As usual, please feelfree to nominate any other 2008 game that you think you’ll put in your top3.  If someone else seconds it, the gamewill be added to the list.

 

Let’s give it a few daysto percolate and then I’ll set up a poll and we’ll revote the ’08 election.  Thanks!

 

Larry

[[e-mail] [spielfrieks]]

So since Preussische Ostbahn will be on the ballot, I'm going to combine it with German Railroads, the subsequent Queen remake, since they're essentially the same game, but some of you may be more familiar with the latter title.

[[e-mail] [spielfrieks]]

I completely agree about Time's Up, Ted. The original is one of my favorite games, but the Titles version isn't nearly as enjoyable for me. Trying to guess people is just more fun (and laugh inducing) than guessing titles.

Larry

[Brent Mair [e-mail] [spielfrieks]]

Times Up! Title Recall is much easier for my family and friends and their
families to play. I think it is because the titles are much easier to
describe/act out even when the person doesn't know the movie/book/play. It
is fairly easy to convey Born to be Wild if I don't know what it is, but
how do I convey Charles De Gaulle if I have no idea who he is?
It is a go-to game for our barbecues. And the women always win. And no,
they won't let me on their team.


Brent Mair
- Spielguy

Post by ***@comcast.net [spielfrieks]
I completely agree about Time's Up, Ted. The original is one of my
favorite games, but the Titles version isn't nearly as enjoyable for me.
Trying to guess people is just more fun (and laugh inducing) than guessing
titles.
Larry
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[Paul Sauberer [e-mail] [spielfrieks]]

This matches my experience. It seems like a bigger stumbling block to try
and step outside a name than a title. It has been easier to get people to
buy into not worrying about the actual thing on the card and break it down
for the usual common words in a title than an entire name.

For the record, though, I would do "Charles De Gaulle" as

Round 1- First name like Dickens
Not night but...
Take out bladder (point to side and wince)

Round 2- Bladder (point to side and wince)

Round 3- Point to side and wince (and maybe say Ow if allowed)

Paul

Post by Brent Mair ***@gmail.com [spielfrieks]
Times Up! Title Recall is much easier for my family and friends and their
families to play. I think it is because the titles are much easier to
describe/act out even when the person doesn't know the movie/book/play. It
is fairly easy to convey Born to be Wild if I don't know what it is, but
how do I convey Charles De Gaulle if I have no idea who he is?
It is a go-to game for our barbecues. And the women always win. And no,
they won't let me on their team.
Brent Mair
- Spielguy

Post by ***@comcast.net [spielfrieks]
I completely agree about Time's Up, Ted. The original is one of my
favorite games, but the Titles version isn't nearly as enjoyable for me.
Trying to guess people is just more fun (and laugh inducing) than guessing
titles.
Larry
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[Fritz [e-mail] [spielfrieks]]

I will second Dixit (although it is close to not making top 3 for me)
There are some solid family games here as well as some very good coops, each approaching the genre differently.



On Sunday, July 8, 2018, 7:37:35 PM CDT, ***@comcast.net [spielfrieks] <***@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 


So let’s check out 2008next.  We nominated 25 games for theoriginal election that year.  Here theyare, in alphabetical order:

 

After the Flood

Aquaretto

Battlestar Galactica

Chicago Express

Conflict of Heroes

Cosmic Encounter

Diamonds Club

Dominion

Ghost Stories

Le Havre

Lost Cities: The BoardGame

Manoeuvre

Metropolys

Municipium

Pandemic

Planet Steam

Powerboats

Royal Palace

Say Anything

Snow Tails

Space Alert

Steel Driver

Stone Age

Tinners' Trail

Wealth of Nations

 

Here’s the top 5 games,by Geek ranking, that didn’t make the list. All it takes is a seconding post to put any of these in the election:

 

Combat Commander:Pacific

Dixit

Formula D

Roll Through the Ages:Bronze Age

Time's Up! Title Recall!

 

As usual, please feelfree to nominate any other 2008 game that you think you’ll put in your top3.  If someone else seconds it, the gamewill be added to the list.

 

Let’s give it a few daysto percolate and then I’ll set up a poll and we’ll revote the ’08 election.  Thanks!

 

Larry

[Wei-Hwa Huang [e-mail] [spielfrieks]]

I'd like to nominate Nefertiti (which was completely off my radar in 2008
but I discovered it in 2014 and loved it).

Also, it's probably not going to make my top 3, but it's a bit strange that
Lost Cities: the Boardgame is on the list but SdJ winner Keltis isn't --
are they considered the same game for purposes of this vote?

Post by ***@comcast.net [spielfrieks]
So let’s check out 2008 next. We nominated 25 games for the original
After the Flood
Aquaretto
Battlestar Galactica
Chicago Express
Conflict of Heroes
Cosmic Encounter
Diamonds Club
Dominion
Ghost Stories
Le Havre
Lost Cities: The Board Game
Manoeuvre
Metropolys
Municipium
Pandemic
Planet Steam
Powerboats
Royal Palace
Say Anything
Snow Tails
Space Alert
Steel Driver
Stone Age
Tinners' Trail
Wealth of Nations
Here’s the top 5 games, by Geek ranking, that didn’t make the list. All
Combat Commander: Pacific
Dixit
Formula D
Roll Through the Ages: Bronze Age
Time's Up! Title Recall!
As usual, please feel free to nominate any other 2008 game that you think
you’ll put in your top 3. If someone else seconds it, the game will be
added to the list.
Let’s give it a few days to percolate and then I’ll set up a poll and
we’ll revote the ’08 election. Thanks!
Larry

[[e-mail] [spielfrieks]]

I really don't know why the group went with the Lost Cities Boardgame and bit Keltis back then, Wei-Hwa. Maybe the former game was easier to acquire. There are some differences between the two, but for the purposes of this vote, let's make it one entry. So in the poll, it will read Keltis/Lost Cities Boardgame. They're so similar, it seems silly to split the vote.

Larry

[Mark Jackson [e-mail] [spielfrieks]]

It has absolutely no chance - but I'd like to vote for Im Reich der
WÌstensöhne... can I get a second?!

Post by ***@comcast.net [spielfrieks]
I really don't know why the group went with the Lost Cities Boardgame and
bit Keltis back then, Wei-Hwa. Maybe the former game was easier to
acquire. There are some differences between the two, but for the purposes
of this vote, let's make it one entry. So in the poll, it will read
Keltis/Lost Cities Boardgame. They're so similar, it seems silly to split
the vote.
Larry
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[[e-mail] [spielfrieks]]

I'll second Im Reich der WÌstensöhne.

Peter van der Raaij

[[e-mail] [spielfrieks]]

I'll second Nefertiti.

[[e-mail] [spielfrieks]]

Nominate Piece o'Cake.

[Paul Sauberer [e-mail] [spielfrieks]]

I'll second Piece o' Cake.

Now to decide which of my previously decided top 3 will get bumped.

Post by ***@gmail.com [spielfrieks]
Nominate Piece o'Cake.
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[Doug Orleans [e-mail] [spielfrieks]]

Is "New World: A Carcassonne Game" eligible? It's not an expansion, but a
standalone game. If so, I'll nominate it.

I would also nominate Sixis, but it wouldn't quite make my top 3...

--Doug

[Doug Orleans [e-mail] [spielfrieks]]

Oh! Looking closer at BGG, I'd also like to nominate:

Hanging Gardens
Ice Flow
Cities

--Doug

Post by Doug Orleans ***@gmail.com [spielfrieks]
Is "New World: A Carcassonne Game" eligible? It's not an expansion, but a
standalone game. If so, I'll nominate it.
I would also nominate Sixis, but it wouldn't quite make my top 3...
--Doug

[Jimmy Okolica [e-mail] [spielfrieks]]

Since it looks like Sorry! Sliders isn't getting seconded, I'll second Cities.  
-Jimmy
On Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 11:48:29 AM EDT, Doug Orleans ***@gmail.com [spielfrieks] <***@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Oh! Looking closer at BGG, I'd also like to nominate:
Hanging GardensIce FlowCities
--Doug


On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 11:42 AM, Doug Orleans <***@gmail.com> wrote:

Is "New World: A Carcassonne Game" eligible? It's not an expansion, but a standalone game. If so, I'll nominate it.
I would also nominate Sixis, but it wouldn't quite make my top 3...
--Doug

['Sharon Khan' [e-mail] [spielfrieks]]

I’m happy to second Sorry! Sliders too. I’m not sure if it will end up in my Top 3 for that year, but it is a game I enjoy.



Sharon





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To: Doug Orleans ***@gmail.com [spielfrieks] <***@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [spielfrieks] 2008 Retrospective





Since it looks like Sorry! Sliders isn't getting seconded, I'll second Cities.



-Jimmy



On Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 11:48:29 AM EDT, Doug Orleans ***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com> [spielfrieks] <***@yahoogroups.com <mailto:***@yahoogroups.com> > wrote:







Oh! Looking closer at BGG, I'd also like to nominate:



Hanging Gardens

Ice Flow

Cities



--Doug







On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 11:42 AM, Doug Orleans <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com> > wrote:

Is "New World: A Carcassonne Game" eligible? It's not an expansion, but a standalone game. If so, I'll nominate it.



I would also nominate Sixis, but it wouldn't quite make my top 3...



--Doug

['Sharon Khan' [e-mail] [spielfrieks]]

I’ll second Hanging Gardens.



Sharon





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Sent: 10 July 2018 16:48
To: ***@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [spielfrieks] 2008 Retrospective





Oh! Looking closer at BGG, I'd also like to nominate:



Hanging Gardens

Ice Flow

Cities



--Doug







On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 11:42 AM, Doug Orleans <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com> > wrote:

Is "New World: A Carcassonne Game" eligible? It's not an expansion, but a standalone game. If so, I'll nominate it.



I would also nominate Sixis, but it wouldn't quite make my top 3...



--Doug

[Chris Trimmer [e-mail] [spielfrieks]]

I second Combat Commander: Pacific.

[[e-mail] [spielfrieks]]

I see no reason why New World: A Carcassonne Game wouldn't be eligible. So if someone is interested in seconding it, it would go on the ballot.

I'll be putting to 2008 poll together sometime tomorrow.


Larry

[[e-mail] [spielfrieks]]

All right, let’s get to votin’! We have 35 games to choose from for 2008. As usual, the app URL is http://meepleschoice.win/ http://meepleschoice.win/. Pick your three favorites. We’ll keep things going until next Thursday, July 19, and then I’ll shut it down and announce the results. The games are given below. Thanks to everyone for participating!

After the Flood
Aquaretto
Battlestar Galactica
Chicago Express
Cities
Combat Commander: Pacific
Conflict of Heroes: Awakening the Bear
Cosmic Encounter (FFG edition)
Diamonds Club
Dixit
Dominion
Ghost Stories
Hanging Gardens
Im Reich der Wuestensoehne
Keltis/Lost Cities: The Board Game
Le Havre
Manoeuvre
Metropolys
Municipium
Nefertiti
Pandemic
Piece o' Cake
Planet Steam
Powerboats
Preussische Ostbahn/German Railroads
Royal Palace
Say Anything
Snow Tails
Sorry! Sliders
Space Alert
Steel Driver
Stone Age
Time's Up! Title Recall!
Tinners' Trail
Wealth of Nations


Larry

[[e-mail] [spielfrieks]]

Funny, to me, 2008 seems like a weak year, for the very reason that several folks have praised it: there were lots of good, accessible, middleweight games, but not too many meaty ones. It doesn't help that I've never been a big fan of Dominion. 2013 felt like a much stronger year.

Larry

[Clay Blankenship [e-mail] [spielfrieks]]

This list has two of my all-time favorites: Pandemic and Ghost Stories.

Post by ***@comcast.net [spielfrieks]
Funny, to me, 2008 seems like a weak year, for the very reason that
several folks have praised it: there were lots of good, accessible,
middleweight games, but not too many meaty ones. It doesn't help that I've
never been a big fan of Dominion. 2013 felt like a much stronger year.
Larry

[[e-mail] [spielfrieks]]

Yeah, the irony is that if you're looking for impactful games, from the point of view of gaming history, 2008 is hugely significant. The first deckbuilder (Dominion), the game that really popularized cooperative designs (Pandemic), a very accessible WP game (Stone Age), plus Le Havre, BSG, Space Alert, Ghost Stories, Dixit--these are games that had real influence and passed the test of time. And none of them are particular favorites of mine! So different strokes and all that. '08 honestly ranks as one of my weakest years ever, while most of the gaming world was heads over heels in love with it.

Larry

[Ted Cheatham [e-mail] [spielfrieks]]

I never thought I would say this, but Larry and I once more agree. And, I don’t think I own any of the games he mentioned anymore. (Well Le Havre on ipad I guess, but don’t play it)

Ted Cheatham

Post by ***@comcast.net [spielfrieks]
Yeah, the irony is that if you're looking for impactful games, from the point of view of gaming history, 2008 is hugely significant. The first deckbuilder (Dominion), the game that really popularized cooperative designs (Pandemic), a very accessible WP game (Stone Age), plus Le Havre, BSG, Space Alert, Ghost Stories, Dixit--these are games that had real influence and passed the test of time. And none of them are particular favorites of mine! So different strokes and all that. '08 honestly ranks as one of my weakest years ever, while most of the gaming world was heads over heels in love with it.
Larry